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		<title>Negationism in India by Koenraad Elst</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The negationism regarding the Nazi crimes has been the object of much public discussion. Turkish negationism about the Armenian genocide has received some attention. Less well-known is that India has its own brand of negationism.

Since about 1920 an effort has been going on in India to rewrite history and to deny the millennium-long attack of Islam on Hinduism. Today, most politicians and English- writing intellectuals in India will go out of their way to condemn any public reference to this long and painful conflict in the strongest terms. They will go to any length to create the illusion of a history of communal amity between Hindus and Muslims.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=overflowingstack.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5937778&amp;post=41&amp;subd=overflowingstack&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>book@<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Negationism-India-Concealing-Record-Islam/dp/0836458087/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1265359291&amp;sr=8-1">Amazon</a></p>
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		<title>more violent expansionist Islamic history..</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 08:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>there is only one islam and its full of shit..</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>world war 3 &#8211; Islamic bombs vs rest of the world</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the documentary is informative, it traces the root of islam and its philosophy &#8211; basically that Muhammad designed Islam first and foremost to be a political system. although it does not refer to the sources (in the video), I do agree with the content (even when it is speculative) from what I have seen Islam has [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=overflowingstack.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5937778&amp;post=33&amp;subd=overflowingstack&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the documentary is informative, it traces the root of islam and its philosophy &#8211; basically that Muhammad designed Islam first and foremost to be a political system. although it does not refer to the sources (in the video), I do agree with the content (even when it is speculative) from what I have seen Islam has done to India over its history.</p>
<p>With Pakistani nukes operational and Iran on the verge of acquiring them (if the Pakistanis haven&#8217;t sold them already) and China and N Korea happily assisting them, it appears we are close to an unthinkable world war 3. More on how China&#8217;s narrow view of the world is ebbing the world closer to WW3 later..</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[found this in the comments section on NYT, here is the original Barbara M Cohen New York August 30th, 2009 9:25 am The US deal with Pakistan runs something like this. US: Please drop your support for the Taliban that is turning Afghanistan back into the 8th century (a plea from 1992 through 2000). Pakistan: [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=overflowingstack.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5937778&amp;post=27&amp;subd=overflowingstack&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found this in the comments section on NYT, here is the <a href="http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/world/asia/30missile.html">original</a></p>
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<div>The US deal with Pakistan runs something like this.</p>
<p>US: Please drop your support for the Taliban that is turning Afghanistan back into the 8th century (a plea from 1992 through 2000).</p>
<p>Pakistan: No (also from 1992 to 2000).</p>
<p>US: We can give you a couple of billion dollars of weapons if you will drop the Taliban.</p>
<p>(Pakistan pockets the weapons and continues to support that Taliban until 9/11 happens.)</p>
<p>US: You are with with us or against us.</p>
<p>Pakis: We are with you. One hundred percent (Musharaf airlifts some of the most wanted Taliban terrorists of Pakistani ethnicity out of Afghanistan and slows down US operations sufficiently for Osama and his pals to securely lodge themselves in Waziristan).</p>
<p>US: Thank you here are 5 billion worth of weapons to use against Taliban.</p>
<p>Pakis: Thank you, thank you (promptly deploy these on the Indian border while Pakis army is cozily in bed with Taliban).</p>
<p>US: Afghanistan is imploding, Taliban are destroying schools and terrorizing women, Karazai is wailing &#8211; you Pakis have got to stop helping the Taliban.</p>
<p>Pakis: Yes of course we will. Could we have 3 billion more of weapons please?</p>
<p>US: Thank you. Yes of course.</p>
<p>(Pakis take the weapons, puth them on the Indian border, army has breakfast with the Taliban and Bhutto is blown up).</p>
<p>US: The ISI is destabilizing the region. You&#8217;ve got to replace their chief and get the army to kill somebody other than American boys.</p>
<p>Pakis: Yes we will do accordingly. Could we have 7 billion in weapons and economic aid please?</p>
<p>US: Thank you. Yes of course. Messers Lugar and Kerry will do the needful.</p>
<p>(ISI gets a new chief, he promptly sends terrorists into Bombay to blow up a Synagogue, a hotel and kill a hundred or so).</p>
<p>US: The ISI is destabilizing the region again. Meanwhile that Taliban is roosting 100 miles from your Capital.</p>
<p>Pakis: Please ask India to give us evidence of our involvement. Our intelligence reports show that Israel and India planned this.</p>
<p>US: Yes of course we will press India to release evidence. Meanwhile about that little matter of Taliban nearing your capital&#8230;</p>
<p>Pakis: We simply don&#8217;t have enough weapons to fight the Taliban. Can you give us an interim aid of 700 million please (while the Lugar &#8211; Kerry bill winds its way through the senate)?</p>
<p>US: Yes of course.</p>
<p>Pakis: Oh, and can you just deliver the weapons on our eastern border with India please? It will save us the trouble of moving the stuff. And by the way we 100% with you in this fight.</p>
<p>US: Thank you, thank you. The aid is on the way.</p>
<p>(Taliban imposes Shariat on Swat valley, flog women, shut down schools, US has its single worst day in Afghanistan, girls are pulled out of school by Taliban thugs in Afghanistan and now there is evidence that Pakis have modified weapons supplied by the US to strike into India).</p>
<p>US gets what it pays for. The &#8216;Cash for Clunkers&#8217; deal is working nicely &#8211; for Pakistan.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I put that as a comment on a blog but after i wrote this, i thought it was worth publishing: &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; Joe Klein does not know the first thing about Kashmir or the history of the Indian subcontinent and the same goes for candidate Obama in 2008. I hope over the last year President Obama [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=overflowingstack.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5937778&amp;post=18&amp;subd=overflowingstack&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Joe Klein does not know the first thing about Kashmir or the history of the Indian subcontinent and the same goes for candidate Obama in 2008. I hope over the last year President Obama has been briefed by &#8216;experts&#8217; on the region and learnt more of the following:</p>
<p>the last time US mediated publicly between India and Pakistan was in 1971 when Nixon in all his cold war wisdom parked USS Enterprise in the Bay of Bengal to threaten India because India mediated in Bangladesh to stop the worst genocide since Holocaust by Pakistani army in Bangladesh (which was then East Pakistan). The US went against popular world opinion even in Western Europe to side with Pakistan despite its obvious brutality and slaughter motivated by economic exploitation and racial bias against the &#8220;short dark skinned&#8221; Bangladeshis. The West Pakistanis (what is left of Pakistan today) considered themselves &#8220;tall fair skinned Pathans of the glorious aryan race and descendants of the Turks who ruled India for 800 years&#8221; (which by the way they still do).</p>
<p>Besides the cold war expediency in backing Pakistan, the US foreign policy still allows Pakistan to arm itself to the teeth to maintain a phony parity with India. This is the single biggest reason that there is instability in South Asia.</p>
<p>To put that in perspective &#8211; it is like the USSR arming Cuba with nuclear missiles so Cuba could defend itself against a possible US invasion and therefore lead to &#8220;stability&#8221; in North America. We all know how much the US loved to have a neighbor like that. But that&#8217;s the game that US foreign policy has been playing in south asia since forever &#8211; supplying a morally corrupt, aggressive, Islamic country that failed democracy 101 more than you can count since 1947, with WMDs, looking the other way when they acquired nukes and all this at the expense of India, the shining beacon of democracy and stability in the third world despite its poverty and sociocultural diversity because it tilted towards Soviet socialism and technically speaking was &#8220;Non-Aligned&#8221; with either super power.</p>
<p>As you can imagine, because of reasons above the United States has little or no credibility in India in being a neutral conflict resolver. So that&#8217;s that. And Obama pushing will not help because what Joe Klein calls his &#8220;ultimate good strategic sense&#8221;, I call &#8220;naivete&#8221;.</p>
<p>here is why:<br />
In 1947 Pakistan was created on a simple philosophy &#8211; &#8220;we muslims ruled India for 800 years until the British spoiled our party. So a democratic India with a Hindu majority is simply unlivable. So we should have Pakistan &#8211; the land of Muslims.&#8221; A British clerk then came up with a simple and arbitrary formula for carving Pakistan out of India &#8211; &#8220;Muslim majority areas will go to Pakistan&#8221;.</p>
<p>That line of thinking led to massive ethnic cleansing of Hindus on what was to be the Pakistani side in the border line districts of Punjab in the west and Bengal in the east. Of course the Hindu and Sikh mobs retaliated and the suffering that followed has been well documented although not known as much in the west.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, India at least in principal NEVER &#8220;purged&#8221; its minorities. At its lowest, weakest and poorest time in its history India was and continues to be a pluralistic democracy, at least as best as they come in a 3rd world country.</p>
<p>Then In 1948, the Hindu king of Muslim majority state Kashmir signed over Kashmir to India. But the flawed logic of India&#8217;s Partition (muslim majority goes to Pakistan) is why Pakistanis think they have the right to Kashmir. So Pakistani army invaded Kashmir and took over 1/2 of it before Indian army salvaged the remaining half.</p>
<p>India&#8217;s weak and pompous Prime Minister (Nehru) at the time foolishly went to the UN and promised a plebiscite which of course later governments never took seriously. Anyhow, Kashmiris themselves were largely happy in India until 1987 when the Indian government felt the need to brazenly mess with the local elections. That was a bad move but again not an unfixable situation.</p>
<p>but then the eager Pakistani intelligence (ISI) seized the moment and turned its battle hardened mujahiddeen (Islamic holy warriors) returning from their victory against the Soviets in Afghanistan towards India. That was the beginning of Pakistan&#8217;s cold war on India. The philosophy was simple &#8211; take advantage of India&#8217;s religious and cultural diversity and bleed it to death instead of launching an un-winnable all out war. The euphemism used was &#8220;moral and diplomatic&#8221; support for Kashmiri separatists and that&#8217;s what it has been for more than 20 years now.</p>
<p>the Kashmiri freedom movement never was as popular as Pakistanis would have you believe. Besides Pakistanis are the least interested in seeing an independent Kashmir, as they like to say themselves &#8211; the &#8220;K&#8221; in Pakistan stands for Kashmir.</p>
<p>So, here is where we are in India right now &#8211; we think India&#8217;s partition was a nightmare caused by Islamic fascism assisted by British who could not care less. But Pakistanis can breathe easy because that doesn&#8217;t mean we want Pakistan back after all who would want a terrorist infested population of brainwashed Islamists living next to them?!?!</p>
<p>But then we are not giving up any more of Kashmir than we already had to. The best compromise that India is willing to strike in the worst case is to maintain the status quo &#8211; accept the current line of control as the international border IF AND ONLY IF Pakistan stops sending jihadis across the border.</p>
<p>Is that too much to ask for to avoid the threat of a nuclear war??? Well as it turn out &#8211; YES. Because kashmir and the Indian bogey would then stop being an issue and the Pakistani Army and its criminal intelligence agency (ISI) would lose relevance and power in Pakistan. But thats not all. The population of Pakistan which has been been brainwashed with Islamic supremacist rhetoric for more than 60 years now in a deliberate attempt to recruit more jihadis for fighting in Afghanistan and Kashmir don&#8217;t want to stop at Kashmir. They want entire India to be ruled by Muslims just like in the good old days before the British came to India.</p>
<p>Long story short, if the international community thinks that Kashmir is THE problem, you are solving the wrong problem. IT IS PAKISTAN THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Pakistan is and has been the aggressor throughout its miserable history.</p>
<p>US double standards and cold war math are partly responsible for making Pakistan the hell hole that it is today. And after all that, US simply does not have the moral high ground to lecture India. Just like India is not Palestine or Iraq or Iran or N Korea or Serbia or Afghanistan or Somalia, we are not Pakistan or in the same ballpark. We do have our own developmental problems but we know how to solve them.</p>
<p>And if Pakistan is proving to be too much of a problem for you, we will be happy to solve that too <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Just don&#8217;t get in the way with your clueless and biased &#8220;mediation&#8221;.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have got to listen to this. I will put a English transcript as well. this is a pakistani channel talking about Mumbai attacks in Nov &#8217;08. Accorsding to these guys these attacks were launched by BJP, a right wing Indian political party working with the CIA and Mossad. This shit goes on and on, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=overflowingstack.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5937778&amp;post=14&amp;subd=overflowingstack&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>You have got to listen to this. I will put a English transcript as well. this is a pakistani channel talking about Mumbai attacks in Nov &#8217;08. Accorsding to these guys these attacks were launched by BJP, a right wing Indian political party working with the CIA and Mossad. This shit goes on and on, almost comic. No wonder Pakistanis hate India!!</p>
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